# Ignore "the" when sorting by title

**URL:** https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557
**Category:** Feature request
**Created:** [October 15, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557 "2023-10-15T16:31:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author: ![gendermelons](https://forum.antennapod.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@gendermelons](https://forum.antennapod.org/u/gendermelons)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557/1 "2023-10-15T16:31:17Z")

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**App version** : 3.1.1, from Google play

**Problem you may be having, or feature you want** : all podcasts that begin with “the” get alphabetized together, rather than being correctly sorted by the second word

**Suggested solution** :  
Add an exception for podcasts that begin with “the” to be alphabetized by the second word

**Screenshots / Drawings / Technical details** :

 ![Screenshot_20231015_113021_AntennaPod](https://forum.antennapod.org/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c37b984646e3240de552756d4ffb4d1949b22b70.jpeg)

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### Author: ![gomezz](https://forum.antennapod.org/user_avatar/forum.antennapod.org/gomezz/32/720_2.png) [@gomezz](https://forum.antennapod.org/u/gomezz)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557/2 "2023-10-15T17:49:06Z")

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If implemented then I suggest doing the same for podcasts called “A _podcast about this or that_”

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### Author: ![ByteHamster](https://forum.antennapod.org/user_avatar/forum.antennapod.org/bytehamster/32/4041_2.png) [@ByteHamster](https://forum.antennapod.org/u/ByteHamster)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557/3 "2023-10-15T18:34:24Z")

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This sounds like it would behave in a very unexpected way if you are subscribed to podcasts in multiple languages. If you really want the article to be ignored, just rename your podcasts

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### Author: ![gendermelons](https://forum.antennapod.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@gendermelons](https://forum.antennapod.org/u/gendermelons)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557/4 "2023-10-15T18:39:04Z")

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Yeah, any article at the start of a name shouldn’t be counted for alphabetization. Should also take into account articles in other languages for foreign podcasts

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### Author: ![keunes](https://forum.antennapod.org/user_avatar/forum.antennapod.org/keunes/32/61_2.png) [@keunes](https://forum.antennapod.org/u/keunes)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2023, 7:38am UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557/5 "2023-10-16T07:38:56Z")

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> [@ByteHamster](#):
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> This sounds like it would behave in a very unexpected way if you are subscribed to podcasts in multiple languages

I was thinking, indeed; if we implement this, we should have a multilingual list of words to ignore at the beginning of the name. Based on translators’ input/community feedback we can tweak this list.  
CC: @femmdi

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### Author: ![loucasal](https://forum.antennapod.org/user_avatar/forum.antennapod.org/loucasal/32/615_2.png) [@loucasal](https://forum.antennapod.org/u/loucasal)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2023, 8:27am UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557/6 "2023-10-16T08:27:26Z")

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A simple dictionary-based approach would create false positives, as the same word can be an article in a language, but not in another.

However, feeds’ language tag could be used to match podcasts with a subset of the list.

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### Author: ![femmdi](https://forum.antennapod.org/user_avatar/forum.antennapod.org/femmdi/32/1584_2.png) [@femmdi](https://forum.antennapod.org/u/femmdi)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2023, 11:06am UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557/7 "2023-10-16T11:06:52Z")

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I agree with @loucasal , it would need to be a list of definite/ indefinite articles by language. English is simple with only four (a, an, some, the). Shall we compile a list per language here?

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### Author: ![ByteHamster](https://forum.antennapod.org/user_avatar/forum.antennapod.org/bytehamster/32/4041_2.png) [@ByteHamster](https://forum.antennapod.org/u/ByteHamster)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557/8 "2023-10-16T15:45:37Z")

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I don’t think such a list works. There are words that are articles in one language but normal words in another language. We can’t just chop off every single word that could be an article in some language. We also can’t just only chop off the language’s articles because users listen to podcasts in multiple languages.

> [@femmdi](#):
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> English is simple with only four (a, an, some, the).

“Some” does not feel like it should be chopped off…

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### Author: ![femmdi](https://forum.antennapod.org/user_avatar/forum.antennapod.org/femmdi/32/1584_2.png) [@femmdi](https://forum.antennapod.org/u/femmdi)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557/9 "2023-10-16T16:22:50Z")

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I think the idea is to identify the feeds language first - using the language tag - and then check against the list of words to remove for this language. So we would only chop off “a, an, the” if feed language is English.

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### Author: ![ByteHamster](https://forum.antennapod.org/user_avatar/forum.antennapod.org/bytehamster/32/4041_2.png) [@ByteHamster](https://forum.antennapod.org/u/ByteHamster)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557/10 "2023-10-16T17:17:47Z")

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I think most feeds don’t have a language tag

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### Author: ![system](https://forum.antennapod.org/uploads/default/original/2X/3/3c7b7383b59ca5ff7c2c145444e45bd1436aa6c1.png) [@system](https://forum.antennapod.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.antennapod.org/t/ignore-the-when-sorting-by-title/3557/11 "2024-02-13T17:17:59Z")

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